steve roggenbuck . poet + video artist . vegan . this blog is mostly my creative portfolio . i use liefplus for reblogs + personal stuff


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traveling the u.s. this year ive had a lot of oportunities to connect likeminded people in various cities. sometimes there is 10 or more people in a city who know me but don’t know each other. through these experiences of connecting people, i’ve truely realized the value of community building. community means everyone has more friends, everyone has more art to enjoy, and everyone has more audience for their art. ive now come to consider community building as a near-equal part of my work, along with cultural production
a bunch of my favorite people in the alt lit community, grouped together on chris dankland’s blog, were recently criticised for writeing in “the same fucking voice.” elsewhere, people have been referring to “steve roggenbuck imitators,” and people have asked me privately what i think of people “writing in my style”
first: to call someone an “imitator” is necessarily a crude, sloppy dismissal—it should never be accepted as a premise for serious argument. soon after finding tao lin in 2009-10, i found the comunity around muumuu house and pop serial, and i read a bunch of so-called “tao lin imitators” at length. sure those writer’s shared a bunch of surface memes, but as i detailed in my reviews at the time, i realy came to appreciate diferent people in diferent ways
and the writeing in the DANKLAND post is distinct too. dave shaw’s fruit poems are so distinct im jealous i didn’t come up with that idea first. james ganas’s macros are funnier than maybe anything i’ve made. im biased from knowing their work so long, but i feel the writers’ personas are so different: stephanie cook is pure #YOLO, angela shier is a super-positive cat lover, and crispin best is the cutest, wittiest man in england. they share some memes, but they dont have “the same fucking voice”
second: the shared memes are exciting because they suggest a movement beyond any individual. in the past i’ve identified a “beat poet” writing voice, some shared diction and energy and vision between ginsberg, kerouac, and corso at least. they always said the word “mad” and talked about jazz and their poems felt vibrant and buddhist in a similar way. and it was awesome. building a memeplex together allows us to be bigger than we can be alone. we can make somthing more prolific and thriving, and with more depth and breadth
noah cicero said that “alt lit” has become an alternative source of entertainment, something you can read/watch for hours every day instead of television. and although there’s confusion about what/who “alt lit” truely includes, i think that the massive volume of its output is valuable
a helpful comparison for me is the metalcore community. outsiders say all metalcore bands sound the same. these bands are ridiculed for all doing “chugs” and screaming in similar styles. as with writers, the criticisms about being “the same” are never totally true. but even when it’s pretty similar, i have to argue: so what? it’s a fun style, it’s awesome for more of this culture to exist, and it’s awesome for people to share in creating it. and sometimes it’s realy good! an artwork doesnt have to be original to be affecting
i’ve been interested in the harry potter and juggalo subcultures too. the level of community in both cases has me in awe, but both are built primarily around a single main cultural product (harry potter books / ICP music) and then just tons of derivative work. fans of wizard rock will admit that many the bands are not even very “good” technically, and yet they provide so much to the hary poter comunity. the gathering of the juggalos is built primarily on ICP’s vision, but it could not exist without all the other juggalo artists
because there are so many bands (or so many writers) creating a similar style of culture, it can truely thrive, both as a broad cultural movement and also in various local scenes. local bands (or writers) and their friends form comunities that are incubators for certain ideas and values. it’s a positive, creative form of entertainment, every week at the event venue, and every day online
sometimes when people complain about unoriginal poems or rushed e-books (“quickshit”) in our community, i think they should consider the larger context of our lives and what is happening: this is what we are doing instead of watching tv. instead of being passive consumers, we are making art and sharing it and encouraging each other to keep making it
my reading in michigan was one of my favorite yet. it was 11 people around a campfire, and all of us read something, even though i only knew about half of us to be seriously aspiring “writers.” some people’s poems felt distinctly “alt lit,” while others shared slam poetry or freestyle rapping, improvised speaking or handwritten drafts. and everyone was so enthusiastic and supportive about each others readings
it is 2012 now. twitter exists. there are not just passive “readers” anymore. to some extent, we’re all here to create and share. some creators will only have a small audience of close friends, while some peoples work will be spread further, via “the cream rises to top,” via “reblogging” 
personally i try very hard to make my posts count. i want to build a body of work that i will be proud of for years to come, and i want to build a large following around my work. i want to change the culture of the world, even. but not everyone has that kind of ambition. and that’s ok. and they can still contribute A LOT to the community
people outside of our community complaining about our community just seems ridiculous to me.. we are boosting each other!!! i dont know if you all can see it
i get messages from people every day saying not only that my own work boosted them, but that beach sloth’s or i am alt lit’s review of their chapbook boosted them, that sadcore dadwave or have u seen my whale accepted their poem and it boosted them, that bob holzhausen or stephen wood said really nice things to them on facebook and it boosted them
ive seen people fall in love through our comunity. people who met for the first time at AWP this year cried upon returning home. ive read the phrase “changed my life” in reference to this lit community so many times in the past 6 months, its ridiculous
we have to remember that the value we are provideing to each other, as writers and as friends, is real
we have to remember that Boosting is real.. im sorry to brand it so hard, but “boosting” is the most accurate word. i could say “inspiring people” or “improving peoples lives,” but “boosting” is both broader and more precise
what we are doing is bigger than and aside from abstract ideas of literary merit. we are making each others lives better. we are making something beautiful with our time on earth. i have so much love for everyone in this community. i think we are on rich, firm ground with what we are doing. i think we should be confident and free in our activity
thank you very much
very disrespectful to the haters

traveling the u.s. this year ive had a lot of oportunities to connect likeminded people in various cities. sometimes there is 10 or more people in a city who know me but don’t know each other. through these experiences of connecting people, i’ve truely realized the value of community building. community means everyone has more friends, everyone has more art to enjoy, and everyone has more audience for their art. ive now come to consider community building as a near-equal part of my work, along with cultural production

a bunch of my favorite people in the alt lit community, grouped together on chris dankland’s blog, were recently criticised for writeing in “the same fucking voice.” elsewhere, people have been referring to “steve roggenbuck imitators,” and people have asked me privately what i think of people “writing in my style”

first: to call someone an “imitator” is necessarily a crude, sloppy dismissal—it should never be accepted as a premise for serious argument. soon after finding tao lin in 2009-10, i found the comunity around muumuu house and pop serial, and i read a bunch of so-called “tao lin imitators” at length. sure those writer’s shared a bunch of surface memes, but as i detailed in my reviews at the time, i realy came to appreciate diferent people in diferent ways

and the writeing in the DANKLAND post is distinct too. dave shaw’s fruit poems are so distinct im jealous i didn’t come up with that idea first. james ganas’s macros are funnier than maybe anything i’ve made. im biased from knowing their work so long, but i feel the writers’ personas are so different: stephanie cook is pure #YOLO, angela shier is a super-positive cat lover, and crispin best is the cutest, wittiest man in england. they share some memes, but they dont have “the same fucking voice”

second: the shared memes are exciting because they suggest a movement beyond any individual. in the past i’ve identified a “beat poet” writing voice, some shared diction and energy and vision between ginsberg, kerouac, and corso at least. they always said the word “mad” and talked about jazz and their poems felt vibrant and buddhist in a similar way. and it was awesome. building a memeplex together allows us to be bigger than we can be alone. we can make somthing more prolific and thriving, and with more depth and breadth

noah cicero said that “alt lit” has become an alternative source of entertainment, something you can read/watch for hours every day instead of television. and although there’s confusion about what/who “alt lit” truely includes, i think that the massive volume of its output is valuable

a helpful comparison for me is the metalcore community. outsiders say all metalcore bands sound the same. these bands are ridiculed for all doing “chugs” and screaming in similar styles. as with writers, the criticisms about being “the same” are never totally true. but even when it’s pretty similar, i have to argue: so what? it’s a fun style, it’s awesome for more of this culture to exist, and it’s awesome for people to share in creating it. and sometimes it’s realy good! an artwork doesnt have to be original to be affecting

i’ve been interested in the harry potter and juggalo subcultures too. the level of community in both cases has me in awe, but both are built primarily around a single main cultural product (harry potter books / ICP music) and then just tons of derivative work. fans of wizard rock will admit that many the bands are not even very “good” technically, and yet they provide so much to the hary poter comunity. the gathering of the juggalos is built primarily on ICP’s vision, but it could not exist without all the other juggalo artists

because there are so many bands (or so many writers) creating a similar style of culture, it can truely thrive, both as a broad cultural movement and also in various local scenes. local bands (or writers) and their friends form comunities that are incubators for certain ideas and values. it’s a positive, creative form of entertainment, every week at the event venue, and every day online

sometimes when people complain about unoriginal poems or rushed e-books (“quickshit”) in our community, i think they should consider the larger context of our lives and what is happening: this is what we are doing instead of watching tv. instead of being passive consumers, we are making art and sharing it and encouraging each other to keep making it

my reading in michigan was one of my favorite yet. it was 11 people around a campfire, and all of us read something, even though i only knew about half of us to be seriously aspiring “writers.” some people’s poems felt distinctly “alt lit,” while others shared slam poetry or freestyle rapping, improvised speaking or handwritten drafts. and everyone was so enthusiastic and supportive about each others readings

it is 2012 now. twitter exists. there are not just passive “readers” anymore. to some extent, we’re all here to create and share. some creators will only have a small audience of close friends, while some peoples work will be spread further, via “the cream rises to top,” via “reblogging” 

personally i try very hard to make my posts count. i want to build a body of work that i will be proud of for years to come, and i want to build a large following around my work. i want to change the culture of the world, even. but not everyone has that kind of ambition. and that’s ok. and they can still contribute A LOT to the community

people outside of our community complaining about our community just seems ridiculous to me.. we are boosting each other!!! i dont know if you all can see it

i get messages from people every day saying not only that my own work boosted them, but that beach sloth’s or i am alt lit’s review of their chapbook boosted them, that sadcore dadwave or have u seen my whale accepted their poem and it boosted them, that bob holzhausen or stephen wood said really nice things to them on facebook and it boosted them

ive seen people fall in love through our comunity. people who met for the first time at AWP this year cried upon returning home. ive read the phrase “changed my life” in reference to this lit community so many times in the past 6 months, its ridiculous

we have to remember that the value we are provideing to each other, as writers and as friends, is real

we have to remember that Boosting is real.. im sorry to brand it so hard, but “boosting” is the most accurate word. i could say “inspiring people” or “improving peoples lives,” but “boosting” is both broader and more precise

what we are doing is bigger than and aside from abstract ideas of literary merit. we are making each others lives better. we are making something beautiful with our time on earth. i have so much love for everyone in this community. i think we are on rich, firm ground with what we are doing. i think we should be confident and free in our activity

thank you very much

very disrespectful to the haters

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